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16/10/2007

La CIA au Vietnam

Parmi les plus grandes défaites subies par les Etats-Unis reste incontestablement en tête la Guerre du Vietnam,de 1964 a 1973 ,qui sera suivie par l'invasion des viet-cong en 1975 et l'effondrement du régime de Vietnam du Sud.Les services secrets américains,et donc la CIA entre autres,ont joués un rôle très important dans ce conflit,en s'efforcant de collecter des renseignements sur l'ennemi viet-cong pour empêcher,selon la théorie des dominos,que si le Vietnam devienne communiste,les pays d'Asie alentour aussi. La CIA y engagera donc d'importants moyens et un nombre considérable d'officiers,faisant de la station de la CIA au Vietnam une des plus importantes numériquement. Y prendront part des chefs de stations, des analystes, des spécialistes de la Guerre psychologique. Voici la liste,qui sera progressivement mise a jour:

 

Chefs de stations CIA a Saïgon

Emmett Mc Carthy 1954-1955

John G.Anderton 1955-1957. 

Nicolas Natsios 1957-1959 

William Colby 1959-1962.

John H.Richardon 1962-1963

David R.Smith (Acting chief of station)

Peer de Silva 1964-1965

John Lymond Hart 1966-1967

Lewis Lapham 1967-1969

Ted Shackley 1969-1972

Thomas Polgar 1972-1975

 

Officiers de la CIA a Saïgon 

Alexander Shatton

Donald Gregg 

David Barry Kelly 

George Weisz

Joseph Lazarsky 

Philip H.Potter

Angelo Kalaris 

Charles Merchant. 

Clark Gilbert Myers

Dean Almy

Donald Healey 

Donald Blascak

Dorothy Lyman

Edward J.Carroll

Edward J.Doyle

Felton Mark Wyatt

Francis Somers.

George Carver

George W.Allen

Helen Morgan

Howard Rocky Stone

James Delaney 

James Hodges Parker

John Singlaub 

Joseph Baker

Joseph McDonald 

Louis Di Filippo

Marcus Kostolich

Michaël Capraro

Nicholas Natsios

Ogden Williams 

Paul Harwood

Philip Jones

Richard Dorey

Richard Sellew

Robert Francis Brogodhy

Robert R.Simmons

Stanley Moscowitz

Steven Kostic

Ted Price

Walter Krisa

William C.Stewart 

 

Complété le 23.10.2007 (Thanks to Aldartus) , 05.03.2008 et 06.03.2008

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La CIA au Vietnam

There are several important facts to know about the CIA in Vietnam:

(A)At one time, there were two stations. One headed by General Edward G. Lansdale under the cover of the U.S. Saigon Military Mission and the real thing managed by a "regular" CIA officer => a lot of frictions
(B)Several COS were unable to stay as COS for they were fired, injured or incapacited. Richardson was unceremoniously fired, de Silva was injured by a car bomb and Hart was incapacited with eyes problems.
(C)After the fall of Saigon, there was a bounty for in the hurry some important files could not be destroyed with these data it was easy to track down former CIA agents..On the other hand, more than one hundred Americans were captured, some of them CIA officers. Some never returned alive. The best known case is Tucker P. E. Gougelman. This senior officer and former Marine colonel was arrested in Saigon in June 1975. He died under duress in Hanoi in May 1976 (among his interrogators were KGB officers). His remains were returned in September 1977.



Emmett McCarthy 1954- 1955

John G. Anderton 1955- Summer 1957 (DCOS Philip H. Potter)

Nicolas A. Natsios Summer 1957- Summer 1959

William E. Colby (DCOS then COS) Feb. 1959- June 1962

John H. Richardson July 1962- Oct. 1963 (fired)

Interim David R. SMITH (DCOS)

Peer de Silva Jan. 1964- on March, 30 1965 injured by a car bomb

Interim Eleazar Williams then Gordon L. Jorgensen

John L. Hart early 1966 - 1967 (incapacited with eyes problems)

Interim DCOS then COS: Lewis J. Lapham 1967- 1968

Theodor G. Shackley Dec. 1968- Jan. 1972 (DCOS George Weisz and Joseph Lazarsky)

Thomas C. Polgar Apr.1972- April 30, 1975.

Écrit par : aldartus | 17/10/2007

A signaler que la CIA avait prédit dés les années 1960 le Nord Vietnam ne renoncerait jamais à la "réunification" a part si on le menacé d'une invasion directe.

Écrit par : Frédéric | 20/10/2007

Sorry Aldartus

But John H."Jocko" RICHARDSON was not fired after Saigon.
He took a long stint in the farm (Camp PERRY VA) training future officers. Then in 1969 he was made CoS "Seoul" KOREA until 1972. It was his last posting.He died from lung cancer in Mexico in 1998.

Apart from that, really good work on Saigon. I knew all of them except Emmet Mc CARTHY. What's your source for him?

Écrit par : Fabj | 26/10/2007

to:Fabj

Well, please re-read my (B) RICHARDSON was fired as SAIGON COS. no less, no more. Yes, I know his bio and the devastating time in Camp Peary aka "The Farm". I understand you are picking your info from his son's book, right?

As far as Emmet McCARTHY is concerned, I will give you at least one OPEN source but I have to check first, O.K. ?

Écrit par : aldartus | 29/10/2007

To : Aldartus

My work(that you can find at: http://cia-spotters.blogspot.com/ ) is based only on open sources.
So yes his son's book (and his 1998 NYT obit) is my only source of info on Jocko RICHARDSON.
And yes Im not asking about "other" sources on this Emmet McCARTHY. I would not be able to evaluate them.

Feel free to write me at : fabj2@hotmail.com

Écrit par : fabj | 29/10/2007

To: Frederic 10/30/2007
As you know, Open Sources INTelligence (OSINT) is quite a good thing if you simply double-check and cross-check and remember that there is a Publications Review Board plus that we are all mortal (I mean fallible). Of course, when you are old enough, you probably know/knew someone who has/had some reminiscences.
So, when I mentioned Emmett McCARTHY, it means that all the checks were accordingly made. This said, I will give you one reference, the most complete as far as the OS are concerned and since you probably are not able to check out the book at the library near you, I am ready to send you the complete related excerpt.
Edward Lansdale The Unquiet American by Cecil B. CURREY 430 pages Houghton Mifflin.
This book was published in 1988 and Emmett McCARTHY is mentioned pages 141-42.
References to E.McC. may be found in several other OS.
Now, if you want to name names of people who stayed over there, the roll call will be as thick as your dictionary. Remember, the question was not IF one will go there but WHEN…

So, no need "to evaluate" them: it's a slam dunk!!!

Please note the correct spelling of Camp Peary (NOT Perry).

Écrit par : aldartus | 30/10/2007

To : Aldartus

A slam dunk...Is that you George?? :-)

Thick as TWO dictionnaries in my opinion.
I know for a fact that, in the 60's and 70's, virtually every ops officers (except some in the SB division like HATHAWAY or GERBER) had a stint (TDY or complete) in the Cambodia Laos Vietnam region.
And almost all trainees between 1962 and 73.
Were you there at that time?
It has also been said in the mainstream media that the size of the Saigon station in those days can only be compared to that of the Baghdad station two years ago (or vice versa).
Thank you for the source on Emmett McC.... will try to get it on Amazon.

In another continent but still open source :

"Jefferson MORLEY recently completed a biography of CIA spy Winston SCOTT,"Our Man in Mexico," which will be published in the spring 2008 by University Press of Kansas."

To whom it may concern....

Écrit par : Fabj | 30/10/2007

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